readme: add link to unofficial discord #20508
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/cc @nodejs/moderation ... any concerns with this outside of the usual It's Not Covered By Our Moderation Policy :-) |
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Hello! I just wanted to comment that me and some folks from Reactiflux spun up a Discord server for node called Nodeiflux a few weeks before this one was created. https://discord.gg/vUsrbjd I'd actually been toying with the idea of making a PR like this myself when I heard that this server was created. We're slightly larger and slightly more active, especially if you exclude node core contributors. I've been moderating Reactiflux for several years and was one of the people who coordinated the switch from Slack, so I'm very familiar with keeping a large community healthy. I've reached out to @devsnek and @bnb in Discord and on Twitter but didn't really get much response, which is part of why I'm leaving this comment. I'd love to avoid fragmenting the community, and would love to chat about how to get the most benefit for the community at large. |
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I know there's a common misconception that Discord is "just for gaming communities", or that folks will somehow use it less than Slack (that is already default open on many desktops). However, I get a lot of value out of being on Reactiflux (and appreciate that the history isn't lost quickly). I didn't realize a node version was also out there, but I've just joined myself. While fragmentation could be a concern, knowing there is already a sizeable subset of a community there, it doesn't hurt for people to know about it? I might suggest that you add this after the node-slackers item though. |
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@vcarl I think there are some important differences, namely that the one created by bnb explicitly follows our CoC, moderation policy, etc and has node org staff as discord staff. it sounds to me like you want one of these servers to disappear and you don't want it to be yours, which is understandable I'm sure you've put lots of work into it but I don't think it's inherently better because it has more people. I'm fine with both existing. |
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I want a productive chatroom that is helps people find answers to their questions and welcomes developers of all skill levels. Thus far I feel that Nodeiflux better accomplishes that goal. No, we don't explicitly adhere to the moderation policy or CoC, but I think we have similar aims and a good track record in Reactiflux. I'd love to talk about ways we could make improvements if there are ways we're not living up to the CoC. |
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I should note that my joining your Discord isn't necessarily an endorsement yet. We had a couple of CommComm discussions about whether or not Node Slackers was appropriate to link to, being the unofficial nature of it also. I think we might need some time to review. There is always a concern about whether or not to point users at a community where we're unable to speak to (or inform) their moderation policies. |
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Disclaimer: I've been in both servers since they were created, but I have moderation privilege in Nodeiflux and I am more active in it. I think the best option right now is to link to both Discords and let them grow organically, especially since they have been less active since being created, unless the Node team considers them too young or unofficial in this state. Both servers have unique advantages over each other, like Nodeiflux's more frequent question and answer content or @devsnek's server's channel structure and presence of Node core contributors. They could potentially merge or replace each other in the future, though I think it's too early to make a decision at this point. As far as ordering goes, I noticed that Node Slackers was added to the end of the list and I think we should maintain the chronological order. I'd be happy to make a PR linking both Nodeiflux and Node.js if this gets enough upvotes. |
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For context, I partially created the non-official Node.js discord to resolve a long-standing discussion around external official communities. I'd be entirely happy to work with or combine with the Nodeiflux discord, especially since their community is (as noted by the creator above) more active and has a team that's native and used to the Discord platform. I'm not very opinionated around this beyond our basic community guidelines, and am happy to enable community-first solutions. |
PR-URL: #20508 Reviewed-By: Rich Trott <rtrott@gmail.com> Reviewed-By: Ruben Bridgewater <ruben@bridgewater.de> Reviewed-By: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
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PR-URL: #20508 Reviewed-By: Rich Trott <rtrott@gmail.com> Reviewed-By: Ruben Bridgewater <ruben@bridgewater.de> Reviewed-By: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
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