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Disproportionate Dislikes on a YouTuber #1063

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InklingGirl opened this issue Jul 23, 2024 · 9 comments
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Disproportionate Dislikes on a YouTuber #1063

InklingGirl opened this issue Jul 23, 2024 · 9 comments
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@InklingGirl
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Have you tried to find similar issues (open or recently closed)?

  • Yes, this issue is not a duplicate

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Brave Browser

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1.67.134 Chromium: 126.0.6478.186 (Official Build) (64-bit)

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Extension

Extension/Userscript Version

v3.0.0.16

Video link where you see the problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSbMU0_uLo

What happened?

The channel Redeemed Zoomer has a disproportionate, implausible amount of dislikes reported, which the channel has contradicted: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiLqiXa5O85APUBQV7X5w9Q/community?lb=UgkxQy9YhD-yN0qf5dIxl5aegXxrSyYifmSN
dislikes

How to reproduce/recreate?

Go to any of Redeemed Zoomer's videos.

Will you be available for follow-up questions to help developers diagnose & fix the issue?

Yes

@InklingGirl InklingGirl added the bug Something isn't working label Jul 23, 2024
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Tali64 commented Jul 25, 2024

As Return YouTube Dislike only provides an estimation of the dislike count on a video, the reported count can sometimes vary widely from the actual (hidden) count. A feature request to allow creators to submit dislike counts has been submitted, but not yet implemented due to concerns that submitted data is susceptible to tampering.

@Anarios
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Anarios commented Jul 25, 2024

I see some suspicious activity there, probably botting, thanks for the report, I'll investigate.

@InklingGirl
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Thanks, there's no question.

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Tali64 commented Jul 31, 2024

This situation makes me wonder if we can improve the dislike estimations; the current system, while it gets the job done, can be biased especially when extension users' like to dislike ratio is far off from the actual ratio. Obviously, allowing creators to submit their own dislike counts as has been requested quite a bit in the past would mostly fix this, but that can't be the only thing we can do to improve the dislike count.

@InklingGirl
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can be biased especially when extension users' like to dislike ratio is far off from the actual ratio

In this case it's worse than that, the extension is reporting more dislikes than are even possible to have disliked it period, as far as I can tell.

allowing creators to submit their own dislike counts as has been requested quite a bit in the past would mostly fix this

This works, but could be susceptible to bad actors at some point.

@Anarios
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Anarios commented Aug 3, 2024

Detected some botting activity on that channel, looks like he's acquired some haters who have put significant effort into time into affecting dislike counts on his videos.

And due to the channel being relatively small sized - I didn't catch it fast enough. My apologies to the channel owner.

Most of the videos have significantly improved scores now.

And thanks again for the report.

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Tali64 commented Aug 3, 2024

Quite a few other videos on the channel have like-to-dislike ratios under 50%: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsfVWiu0GsA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NlZRc5oKUc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxzjuzSNIw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XTXAonu5Ho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8s2TDoSc00 - this shows why verifying that the data is accurate is important, if these scores are botted as well. Implementing the ability for creators to submit their own dislike counts would help greatly and would be a feature I'd use if I were a content creator.

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Anarios commented Aug 3, 2024

@Tali64 it's cache, these videos have normal scores too - just takes some time.

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Tali64 commented Aug 3, 2024

Alright then.

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